To Me TNE is test w/ no ester…? Testosterone suspension is the same , just cant be called suspension or aques suspension in oil, so its TNE. On that note, I was able to get a ton of test gel and creme like 8 years ago. WTF, i did 2% and supposed 5% from compound pharmacy. That is a topical no ester. If you apply 100grams a day of the 2%, for instance, I figured I was getting 200 mgs daily fast into the system. not knowing the exact absorption rate at the time I just took a bath in the stuff and I got good results and more side effects then ever. My stupidity but cheap and plenriful = use more in earlier times! All of these have to be pretty much the same. If you use a base every day, every 12 hours, you should get a stable blood level and expected results. The abuse I speak of ended years ago, so dont do that dosing:roll_eyes: So, is it new? Aquaes Test at 50-100 per day was a staple for contest prep in late 80s , early 90s. The Steris brand for the old geezers! Ive been wrong more than ive been right, and Im good with that…is there a difference? Arent they all test “base”? There was another effective "BASE’ in the 80s…someone take the keyboard!