Hey @Burrr so heres a little back story on this. First UGM has been around several years now. Everyone original came from different boards. I was at the original underground, UK muscle, professional muscle forums. That's where some of the original members come from. I was also a mod on other sites as well.
We were based on a different forum setup (vbulletin) and later made the switch to this current one. With the switch we lost alot of regular members mostly when we lost the mobile app tapatalk. A few came over. A few messaged they didn't like the new format over the old one etc. So be it. Times change. Software platforms change and this is better then Vbulletin or Drupal IMO. When people mention the change this is what it was. When I made the change I asked @PHD and @Bigmurph about the thoughts on this new format and we went with it.
Now about our site. We are here for the members before anyone. One of the reasons I (under my old username RX) started it was I was tired of scammers and boards protecting scammers. I myself have lost money to sources on other boards and when I complained my comments deleted. I saw other boards getting bought off by sources to allow them "top" spots on sites. I've seen mods run boards when they are sources themselves there and do similar shit to keep themselves the highest source then turn and exit scam the board with members gettting screwed and the mods that own the source still there hiding comments and all.
Anasci was the first board that openly started exposing scammers with all the info they had on them. If you look at the scammers list of email, names and locations the list was shared from them originally.
Now to go back to the bullshit "conspiracy" theory that musclegurus has with us right now. You need to read this here.
Some people don't have technical knowledge. I do. This is why you see some other posts I make and share about technical stuff and staying safe online. Another user on here also has a background in programming and security.
What I found I detailed out in that thread. I never even got on MG or looked at them before. I saw the site as a smaller version of eroids. I personally don't go for the karma and negs and all that bullshit on a board. Reddit, eroids and mg can keep that stuff there.
Everything in that thread was found out before @SIEGMUND even came over here as a member. I find it interesting that members there (even ones now defending mg there) say they knew some stuff was going on with admin and sources there but they are ok with it. IMO if you are a member on a board that supports that and you know about it and defend it, it shows where your integrity lies.
They're now upset that siege "turned on them" and as a mod there put it "told us secrets"?? Really?? Funny cause I exposed it all before siege even came here. Secondly they had poor OPSEC and got exposed of their "secrets". The thread got attention from people sharing it on other sites and reddit source forums. We have members that are in both places anyway we dont care. Years ago I heard the site owners of MG were from Odessa Ukriane. When I was told the sites I was exposing as being connected were all on MG then it all made sense when I made the test orders they all came from Chisinau Moldova. Theyre driving distance apart from each other and alot of Moldovans go to Ukraine and back and forth. Ukrainians go to Moldova for drugs and take them back to Ukraine.
Geography for those that don't know. Tiraspol is a breakaway part of Moldova between the two countries. They have control of Moldova side and their is only one checkpoint on Ukrianes side at most times. I've been to both places. I've been in Balkans shitty little lab behind residential buildings there. Seen vermodjes lab there as well. I know people in both cities and countries. Someone I met there even worked and got fucked over by Pharmacom there.
Now back to @SIEGMUND, he has not talked shit about anyone there or said any "secrets". They can blame themselves for that shit. I don't know what other shit went on there before my post here but obviously the board had issues before hand and sketchy shit going on.
Any buyer that searches online can make an informed decision about any of the sources there based on what I found.
Its funny how when people from there came here they started their damage control back there and trying to blame sieg.
I guess since they (admin and mods) claim that sieg is a "traitor" and exposed secrets. In that sense they have confirmed anything sieg does wish to comment on about MG as truth to the matter. but he had no role in any of the shit I posted.