Banned src alex yang hghtaboil.com also wehormone.com


#1

I have a big announcement and this hurts me to say this but are verification has failed for the first time. It had to happen eventually because people just don’t know how to do business right. We recently just had a member who I respect very much and I’m very pissed off about this situation get scammed by source that I treated very good and tried to help him when it came to his language barrier and also to get used to using the site. I also was nice enough to this sponsor to actually submit him to another website as a good source. I cannot believe that he decided he was going to say sorry I’m just not going to give you what you ordered oh and by the way I’m not going to give you a refund either. This source is going to come on and he is going to try to defend himself because he is going to say that in this business both sides have to understand that there’s going to be a loss I’m sorry but here at UGM that is not how are sponsors operate. They are required to deliver everything that was paid for by a member or they lose their verification on the spot this will not be tolerated I have recently heard from unverified sources on other forums and just online in general that they believe they shouldn’t have to reship for free that when they reship the customer should have to pay 50% of the reship and the shipping cost. I want to let everyone know our sponsors or members and anyone else reading this who comes on UGM to find quality verified sponsors that this will never be tolerated. Verification comes with rules the rules are the source must deliver everything paid for. That’s the end of story there is no excuses for not delivering what was paid for. If a Source decides that they do not want to fulfill the order that they took someone’s money for then they will return the money in full to that member but they do have good choice to reship the products just like any good source would do if you ever encounter a source here or somewhere else that says that they will not reship in full as many times as it takes to get you what you paid for do not I repeat do not even think about ordering from them. There are so many scams out there that revolve around this type of situation. A common source scam is when a source doesn’t want to actually send the product so they decide that they’ll take your money and then what they’ll do is they will send what’s called a ghost pack or a hot pack will send you a tracking number and they will ship a package but it will contain something that they know will immediately be seized and then they say to you sorry your package was seized but it’s okay will reship it then they reship again package gets seized again then they say oh we’re sorry shipping is just so hard right now. Since we took such a loss we’re going to need you to help out with the cost of sending the next reship. This will not happen here I want all of our sponsors to know that they have to reship as many times as it takes to get the order choose a person that paid for it and if they cannot then they are going to have to refund the money in full for that order. I’m sorry to everyone reading this for the rant but I am extremely upset right now because this sponsor was a very good sponsor and I don’t understand why he did what he did but he did it so now he has to pay the price and I’m not talking about a refund I’m talking about now he is known and tagged online as a scammer because that is what he did he won’t think he scammed anyone because he thinks that the customer should have to take responsibility for some of the loss that’s not how it works and it will never change here it will always be what you order you will get or that sponsor will be dropped so fast that some of you might not even realize that they are already gone. I think I already said this but I am never going to tolerate anything like this happening here on this site. This site was created for members not for sources or sponsors no disrespect to our sources or sponsors because all of them really don’t even have to worry about this because they do business the right way but now I have a sponsor that decided that he was not going to do business the right way so therefore he will never ever get business from members here or on other forms because I’m going to make sure that I let all the mods know that this company does not fulfil their promises. I’m sure that wants the member that had this situation happened to him reads this he will probably explain it a lot better than I have because I’m so mad right now I cannot believe that this just happened.

BANNED FROM UGM UNLESS THEY REALIZE THAT THEY MADE A MISTAKE AND COME TO THERE SENSES. I DON’T BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL.

DON’T ORDER OR HONESTLY EVEN SPEAK WITH HGHTABOIL#COM OR WEHORMONE#COM

DON’T ORDER ANY DBHHGH OR ANY OTHER PRODUCTS FROM EITHER OF THESE SITES OR FROM ALEX YANG HIMSELF.

IM GOING TO BAN THE SECOND PERSON EVER AT UGM RIGHT NOW AND I WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ALEX YANG WITH WEHORMONE#COM AND HGHTABOIL%>COM

I IMAGINE THAT THEY WILL COME OUT WITH NEW NAMES AFTER ITS ALL OVER THE INTERNET THAT THEY DIDN’T DELIVER AND ARE IN THE SCAM SECTION. REMEMBER ALEX IS A GOOD GUY BUT IF HE WON’T RESHIP AN ORDER THAT WASN’T EVEN A LARGE ORDER THEN HE WON’T RESHIP A SMALL ORDER SO PLEASE EVERYONE STAY AWAY FROM HIM UNTIL HOPEFULLY HE COMES TO HIS SENSES AND MAKES THIS SITUATION RIGHT.

THANKS SORRY FOR THE RANT
BIGMURPH

@UGMain
@Source


#2

#3

I’m going to jump in here and state something for all sources on board. At NO point should a source also contact the Postal Service and Customs to complain about a package siezed and draw attention to the member.

A “Hey where is the drugs I shipped to X Member @ home address?” isn’t going to fly around here. When it’s out of your hands you do what’s right and don’t cause additional legal problems for the member.

As sources also everyone needs to read Rick Collins book “Legal Muscle” there’s copies floating around online and probably one still here somewhere. And take into account the safety of customer. Now the member needs to watch out for any package mailed for a controlled delivery.

Alex Yang has now put the member at additional risks of legal issues.


#4

WTF RIGHT CRAZY SMH


#5

This is also not the first time that this has happened with security issues. He was warned and we moved on but of course now I see there was a much bigger problem


#6

oh i know how it feels…you are a man of your word and you guys work so hard to protect your members and give lots of solid support to your sponsors…such betrayal is VERY hurtful especially because its some one you supported and encouraged members to trust and patronize the source. unfortunately when those of not good intentions want to get something…they know how to play the game well to win your trust…the game of coming through till they get that big one …what they have been waiting for…and they take it and run…and then you realize. you can only do your best…its almost impossible to calculate people’s true intentions …we just never know. my safety is to order small on as needed. this way if it does happen i am not out much. like refilling a prescript…as long as i keep getting the stuff when i am about out i will place amother. thats my safety. it it aweful he betrayed your trust and another members trust and didnt deliver. to be honest…someone like that can never be trusted…if he actually stated those point of views… he beleives it…and aparently he has acted on it…that is how he and those sites role and if the opportunity arises on a larger order…and there may be a snag he may likely bail immediately and leave the customer hanging… thank you for you and your teams dedication to keeping things legit and members instantly informed


#7

Well said


#8

WWWHHHAAAT?! i would be freakin out


#9

Yes the member that had to go through this situation is freaking out


#10

oh geeze not good. i hope it drops…does it work to create a source that sells stuff under the cover of “research only… not for human consumption” though we know better…and the stuff would be shipped with an annalysis sheet etc. i dont know if they can do anything about private labeled substance for research…i know a place i dealt with sent me clenbuterol under that set up.


#11

Clenbuterol and peptides fall under different laws in US. Technically they can be liquid and sold as research chems in a grey area of the law.


#12

ooh i see makes sense now. i didnt understand how they did that…i know when i sent email asking how to take it…they quickly responded its not for consumption…expirimental only…i was like…oops!! yes…thaats riiight! (to my self) lol!


#13

Much respect and much love for u on being the man on this big murph that all I can your what everyone of us should be a pillar of our community my full backing for you and your integrity brother


#14

Thank you for the updates guys, I can’t even begin to comment on this… Thread safely UGM, and be smart.


#15

All I can say is WOW!! And to think I just recently did business with this guy. Thanks for this heads up!


#16

He contacted the post office or customs? Seriously?


#17

Yeah and when I saw that I flipped my shit over it. Complete disregard for the safety of our member by drawing more attention to it.

I can imagine the face when a customs agent or postal inspector getting the notice that the shipper wants to know why the drugs he shipped haven’t been delivered to the guy…


#18

Yea guys Alex really pulled a number on me. He started by trying to raise his prices all of a sudden. (I should have known then to not order). He agreed to charge the normal rate. Well first pack never made it and second pack never made it then he tries to say oh send me $1500 and I’ll reship. I said no and let @TrenGod and @Bigmurph know about the situation. Being an admin I wanted to be sure before saying anything. Needless to say I lost a bunch of money. Bad part is is that I was really good to him and even praised him here. I mean he could have made a lot
More money doing business the right way instead of screwing me over. Oh well he will get his one day.


#19

I really appreciate that brother. Those are kind words but
I take verification very seriously so if a src does anything off I need to know right away not directed at you but to everyone. That way I can make sure that this never happens.
This is horrible our verification process failed for the first time ever and it was my fault.
I need to step up my game and really get back to watching all srcs like a hawk. I will be on 24/7 by the end of the month again like I was before November.


#20

Keep in mind murph, that no plan is ever completely perfect or concrete, for it to happen once, out of a lot of times is dam near perfect, and nothing is ever completely perfect, this instance, shitty as it was, especially for PHD, will allow you to adapt and revise what was already a great vetting process, you can only learn and move forward from here brother.